Loading...
Answers
MenuWhat's the best way to share revenue projections with potential investors when market size is tough to calculate?
My software is a monthly subscription based service (cloud storage for photographers) but my market size is almost impossible to calculate. There are a reported 3.5 million photographers in the world but some speculate there can be up to 5x or more than that as most do photography part-time. Any suggestions on how to best present some top-down or bottom-up projections?
Answers
I took a quick look at 500px who reported 1.5-million users in 2012 (source: Techcrunch http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/28/gorgeous-photos-in-your-pocket-500px-arrives-on-iphone/) with 10% as professional photographers. The article also mentions monthly growth of ~100,000 users. If your targeting the same market as 500px, use their reported numbers to back-up your assumptions. I'm sure there are other services who target the same user community - I'd spend some time collecting this type of data.
Is your service designed only for professionals, or would you see a semi-professional (part-time) and advanced home-user?
This is a tricky one. It is best to build a bottom up forecast. You need to internally decide your sales strategy and make your best estimate of how many customers you will sell, how much you will sell to them and how much repeat business you expect to have. You will do this for each market you will sell to. I would be as granular as possible when building this internal forecast. If you have specific target customers that is great include them. Combine all of this for the next 3 years and you have your forecast. It will be wrong by the way, but it's all you have to go on.
The real problem is when present this to investors. There is a tendency to give too many details and for some people to get caught up in the details. I would provide potential investors only the high level projections and explain the process you used to derive the numbers. Once you dive down into the details of a plan like this you are inviting all sorts of criticism that you really cannot defend, then it can turn into a game of gotcha.
Any good investor will know that the projections are wrong but should appreciate the process that you have used to create the projections. At the end of the day they will either think that what you have created is a good representations of your product/service potential or not. They will not benefit from getting too caught up in the detail and you certainly will not. Keep it simple and try to steer any conversations back up to the substance of the projection rather than the details.
I've done many revenue projections for investors in my startups. As long as you have a methodology and rationalization for your projections you will be fine. So pick the more conservative number, assume a 5% market penetration, and explain what the numbers will look like.
One of the most crucial tasks an entrepreneur has is to calculate the size of their market, and the potential value that market has for their start-up business. Determining the market size is critical. It tells you and your partners, team and investors how much potential business is really out there. Market size becomes far more important if you ever need to raise funding for your business. It is one of the most basic digits every potential angel and VC investor is going to expect. To calculate your market size, you will either be looking for data on the number of potential customers, or number of transactions each year.
There are a variety of ways to acquire this data. Census and labour bureau hold a lot of information, and most industries have formal associations which compile and track this type of data. Once you have the data you want to make sure that you are presenting it in a powerful way in your pitch deck since it is one of the most important slides. Thiel includes not one, but two slides around the market and its size. Market size, or the number of potential customers or unit sales is one thing. You need to know how much revenue that market has to offer.
Realistically, no start-up should or can expect to gain 100% market share. Trying to capture an entire market, without first targeting several niches, price points, customer sizes or geo areas for roll out, is going to be financial suicide for most entrepreneurs. That is about $1B a year from just one extra revenue stream, at just over 18% of the available market share. Of course, most new start-ups cannot expect to even command that much market share.
Even if you could, most seasoned investors will not believe it until you prove it. If you have no idea what’s a reasonable amount of market share in your industry, Projection Hub says one hack is to anonymously call around to all of your local competitors and find out how much volume they are doing. Also factor in the static versus evolving marketplace. Do not forget to factor in your own impact on the market. Their price cutting also slashed the value of the market in a huge way.
Besides if you do have any questions give me a call: https://clarity.fm/joy-brotonath
Related Questions
-
VCs: What are some pitch deck pet peeves?
Avoid buzzwords: - every founder thinks their idea is disruptive/revolutionary - every founder says their financial projections are conservative Instead: - explain your validation & customer traction - explain the assumptions underlying your projections Avoid: - focusing extensively on the product/technology rather than on the business - misunderstanding the purpose of financial projections; they exist in a pitch deck to: a) validate the founders understanding of running a business b) provide a sense of magnitude of the opportunity versus the amount of capital requested c) confirm the go-to-market strategy (nothing undermines a pitch faster than financial projections disconnected from the declared go-to-market approach) d) generally discredit you as someone who understands how to build a company; for instance we'll capture 10% of our market, 1% of China, etc. Top down financial projections get big laughs from investors after you leave the room. bonus) don't show 90% profit margins. Ever. Even if you'll actually have them. Ever. Instead: - avoid false precision by rounding all projections to nearest thousands ($000) - include # units / # subscribers / # customers above revenue line; this goes hand-in-hand with building a bottom up revenue model and implicitly reveals assumptions. Investors will determine if you are realistic, conservative, or out of your mind based largely on the customer acquisition numbers and your explanation of how they will be achieved. - highlight your assumptions & milestones on first customers, cash flow break even, and other customer acquisition and expense metrics that are relevant Avoid: - thinking about investor money as your money - approaching the pitch from your mindset (I need money); investors have to be skeptics, so understand their perspective. - bad investors; it's tempting to think that any money is good money. You can't get an investor to leave once they are in without Herculean efforts and costs (and if you're asking for money, you can't afford it). If you're not on the same page with an investor on how to run/grow the business, you'll regret every waking hour. Instead: - it's their money; tell them how you are going to utilize their money to make them more money - you're a founder, a true believer. Your mantra should be "de-risk, de-risk, de-risk". Perception of risk is the #1 reason an investor says no. Many are legitimate, but often enough it's simply a perception that could have been addressed. - beyond the pitch, make the conversation 2-way. Ask questions of the investor (you might learn awesome things or uncover problems) and talk to at least two other founders they invested in more than 6 months ago.JP
-
How do you get your first customers for a consulting business?
Back when I started LinkedIn wasn't as huge as it is now. I wish it was. I didn't have a large network and those networking sessions NEVER brought me any clients. I used to go to all sorts of them hoping to get clients. There were a couple of nibbles here and there, but never anything serious. The only thing that helped was reaching out DIRECTLY to people in my target market. That meant cold calls and cold emails. I'd sell myself while thinking about their needs. Once I got a few bites I'd build good rapport by keeping in touch, asking questions, repeating back what they were saying so that they knew I was on the same page and kept my promises. If I said I'd call them back next Tuesday at 2:15 I'd do so. Eventually I built trust with them without having a network, or an insane amount of experience. Oh and the most important thing about consulting is to LISTEN. When those first clients notice that you're truly listening and you're not selling the cookie cutter solutions everyone else is trying to sell them that's when you got them hooked. You start to understand their problems, fears, and see through their eyes and not just yours. A network will help, but in the beginning just good 'ol salesmanship will get the ball rolling.JC
-
What percentage of VC funded startups make it to 100m+ revenues in 5 years or less?
100M+ in revenues in 5 years or less does not happen very often. As an example of one sector, here is an interesting data visualization (circa 2008) of the 100 largest publically traded software companies at that time that shows their actual revenue ramp-ups from SEC filings (only 4 out of these 100 successful companies managed this feat, which themselves are an extremely small percentage of all of the VC-funded software companies): How Long Does it Take to Build a Technology Empire? http://ipo-dashboards.com/wordpress/2009/08/how-long-does-it-take-to-build-a-technology-empire/ Key findings excerpted from the link above: "Only 28% of the nation’s most successful public software empires were rocketships. I’ve defined a rocket ship as a company that reached $50 million in annual sales in 6 years or less (this is the type of growth that typically appears in VC-funded business plans). A hot shot reaches $50m in 7 to 12 years. A slow burner takes 13 years or more. Interestingly, 50% of these companies took 9 or more years to reach $50m in revenue."MB
-
When recording income for a marketplace startup, is it typical to use the gross transaction or just the fees collected per payment?
You usually only recognize the commissions as revenues and use the term "Gross Merchandise Value" (GMV) to describe the size of the marketplace (value of all transactions going through the site)BW
-
A tech startup fully outsourced. What problems would be in this situation?
The ideal way would be to hire the engineer while the project is still under development. You and the engineer should follow up with the outsourced partner in the process. This will give hold to the engineer and later more staff can be trained in upgrading or follow on versions of the product/service.SM
the startups.com platform
Copyright © 2025 Startups.com. All rights reserved.